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Old 04-11-2002, 08:20 PM Inktomi plus PositionTech
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I just added a doorway site to the Inktomi engines via http://www.positiontech.com

I was wondering how many of you have used this service?

The spider returns every 48 hours. I am going to keep modifying the page until my ranking increases (at least I hope). Hopefully my $39 investment will pay off!

Here is my doorway page. http://www.webmaster--forums.com
I will have to wait and see in a couple days how well my first try does..
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Old 04-12-2002, 05:33 PM
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You are using double hyphens I see, should be interesting to see how it goes...
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Old 04-14-2002, 06:13 PM Results
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Here are my results after the first optimization try:

Keyword: webmaster forums

AOL SEARCH - 18 out of 597,145.

Iwon - 19

Hotbot - 19

MSN - 26 (first of webpage results).
But, I just found out that the actual forum URL is #2!

I think I will need to get into the top 10 of AOL, Iwon, and Hotbot, for the investment to have been worthwhile. Now to do a little more optimization...
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Old 04-17-2002, 07:35 AM I cant get listed :(
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Hi,
I see people talking about getting ranked high in search engines, but I cant seem to even get listed!

How long does it take to get listed after submission?
Does anyone know of a good submission service? Or have any tips on how I can get listed?

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Old 04-17-2002, 01:52 PM Luke
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Hey Luke!

Welcome to the forums!

Every search engine is a little different. I would love to try and help you out AND you will get listed in at least a few. Nice site by the way!

Let me make another post about where and how to submit...
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Old 04-18-2002, 01:57 PM
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Tim,

Inktomi likes simple pages - so that page will fit with Inktomi well. Here's some comments though

- The phrase "Webmaster Forums" gets very few actual searches
- Inktomi also uses link popularity to order results

To answer Luke's question

- avoid submission services, especially the ones that offer to list you on a huge number of engines - they are a rip off & can even result in being banned from some engines
- Submit your sites by hand
- To have any success in the SE's that matter you need to do these things
1. Optimize your page somewhat - have each page focus on one or two keywords. Have the keywords in your Title & within the body of your page. Doon't stress over this too much
2. Build links - takes time - but it's a must - try to get links that have your keywords in the text.
3. Build content in your site - This is important for a few reasons - it increases the likelyhood that people will want to link to you, and it increases your opportunity to be seen in SE's

For the different SE / Directories
- Try to get in the Open Directory Project (www.dmoz.com)
- AOL / MSN - Submit to Inktomi (PositionTech seems to have the easiest interface)
- Google - don't use the site submit - it does absolutely nothing & is only there because people expect it to be there. Google will list your site once it finds you on the web.
- Yahoo - you could try the free submit, but don't hold your breath on that

The main point is build a site with good content, do some optimization of your pages & try to build links....then be patient.
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Old 04-18-2002, 02:59 PM
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Your page dosnt have any real content to attract a high listing.
All the text is in a <h1> tag and therefore dosnt contain any body text .
You need to drop the banner at the top of your page so the important (lacking) body text will be above this.
You need to down load the banner and name it after your primary keyphrease ie webmaster forums rather than sourcing the file from their website.
build at least 500 words into the body text and use a few other forums to link to, must have forums in the link text (important at least two links)
You will then find the page listed in the top 10!
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Old 04-18-2002, 03:03 PM
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Hi luke ,
How long is it since you submitted and to whom?
Dont bother with submission services when you can carry out this yourself in around an hour.
Answer the above question ill then post a load of urls to submit your site to.
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Old 04-18-2002, 03:11 PM
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Hey mr forums boss ,
send me some text ill down load the page perform a few tweeks to the html and send you the ammended file O and ill also make the page number one just to prove a point how does that sound to you?
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Old 04-18-2002, 03:15 PM Submit to URLs
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Nice tips!

Maluk, I made a thread yesterday with the add URL links of most of the more popular search engines and Directories, but feel free to add some more in a new thread below it.

Here is the link:

http://64.46.99.143/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165

P.S> Maluk, you can edit your existing threads if you have additional thoughts to add before anyone else replied. Just letting you know, and welcome back.

About your Offer: Feel free to copy the doorway at www.webmaster--forums.com and see what you can come up with. PM me the changes. I don't object

NOVA, yea, not very many searches. Overture shows only 517 from last month.
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Old 05-13-2002, 04:44 AM
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Well done chief,

Just out of the blue is your domain with the double hyphen on a unique IP or is it dynamic?

Thanks

Richard

P.S

I hope your page does last in there because some website owners will consider that doorway as spam.
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Old 05-29-2002, 02:47 PM
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ok the old page could be spam as it had very little content or info,
ive sent a new info page (not doorway page as these are spam pages to all engines) that contain lots of facts and info about the forums , hope this helps
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Old 05-29-2002, 02:54 PM Maluk
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Hey Maluk, I got your PM...

Did you submit that page to the SE/Google that you sent me?

Also, do you want me to copy that over to the Webmaster--Forums doorway? I removed that URL from INK/PositionTech temporarily and replaced it with this site URL...
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Old 05-29-2002, 03:40 PM
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Yes , do so, as this will gain your site top status in many search engines, do you want me to submit your new info page ? I can action this for you if need be , however you are paying inktomi they will re-spider in a few days gaining results for your site.
Let me know as we dont want both of us submitting as this would be considered spam.
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Can you send me mail as this would be a lot quicker to answer than posting at the forums ?
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Old 06-22-2002, 02:35 AM
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Just out of curiosity Chief how much traffic do you receive from this page that you have sucessfully entered into position tech?
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Old 06-22-2002, 02:47 AM
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At the moment I have the main URL : www.webmaster-talk.com
being spidered. To be honest I have not had much luck with Inktomi yet. I have not logged into positiontechs control panel to see how many hits I have gotten but I will look and get back to you. I can tell you that forum will pass 100,000 page views this month We are growing pretty fast IMO.
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Old 06-22-2002, 03:49 AM
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Great good on you. I imagine you would be getting good traffic from Msn , Aol and Netscape. I will wait with anticipation.... on your post!
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