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**177594** · 03-24-2005, 02:04 AM

I have a directory site and heard about the concept of 'leaking PR' recently. ie. because of all the outgoing links. Is their any way of reducing this whilst still having 'true url's'?
i've heard if you have a redirect thing going with external links then it prevents it but this isn't good for SEO, as people won't want to add their site if their true url is not shown

any ideas.
thanks

**nixies78@yahoo.** · 03-24-2005, 06:36 AM

Hmm no if you are going to use 'true url' you are always going to leak some PR. However you can limit this in a few ways, in my mind the best way to do this is to make the directory deeper so it takes longer to get to the pages with the outgoing links.

Say you have a directory that looks like this:

HOME > CARS

and the links out of the website is on CARS page you will lose quite a bit of PR however if you build like this:

HOME > VEHICLES > CARS > FORDS

and have all the ford links out of the site on the fords page you will achieve two things. Your website will become much larger which will mean it have have a bigger base PR also it will leak only a fraction of the Page rank that it did perviously.

Hope this helps. Nixies

**kline11** · 03-25-2005, 06:31 PM

Good advice nixies!

**177594** · 03-25-2005, 09:36 PM

thanks
very helpful

**thevirus** · 03-26-2005, 12:11 AM

In reality there is no such thing as losing pr because of outgoing links, it is just simply not getting as much pr as possible out of your main page. Ex. Main page links to 30 internal pages that dont link back to the main page for some reason might have a pr of 3, while if same website had those internal pages link back it could boost the pr to 5. This is not because pr leaks, simply because it is not utilized.

**cbp** · 03-26-2005, 07:08 AM

Leaking PR is just another one of the many myths doing the rounds.

**nixies78@yahoo.** · 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thevirus

In reality there is no such thing as losing pr because of outgoing links, it is just simply not getting as much pr as possible out of your main page.

Is this based on any facts, example or is it just pure speculation? I total disagree, it one of the most accepted fact of the way that the pagerank algorithm works.

See pagerank explained:

Quote:

Outbound links are a drain on a site's total PageRank. They leak PageRank.

Try using the Pagerank calulator and add a extra outgoing link to your site and see what it what it does to the overall pagerank.

The thing that get me is you accept that by altering the linking structure you can alter where the spread of pagerank is on your website and you accept that inbound links increase your pagerank (i.e. give you pagerank from the other websites). But for some reason don't believe that it drains pagerank. It makes no sense.

The pagerank algorithm was based on a patent of a oxford professor for telling important in nodes in databases, this google has admitted when they applied to use the patent. If you have any reason to believe that this is just a myth I would like to hear it. Usually people just say that when they are trying to get people to link to their website when it would do them more harm than good.