The Other Search Engines

**TimSchroeder** · 02-16-2002, 05:28 PM

What kind of traffic are you getting from Findwhat? Mine seems rather low at the moment.

Any other PPC engines that you are having decent results with?

**Tiggy** · 02-17-2002, 10:17 AM

At the moment I have yet to see any traffic from FindWhat, but then what else would you expect from such a small scale site that gets only 250 or so page views a day such as mine.

I need traffic to my site, but I wouldn't pay for it... this is one of the reasons why I visit and post to a select few webmaster forums!

**maluk** · 03-01-2002, 05:18 PM

Hi tigger
If you are serious about your site you need to get listed in yahoo and looksmart , the latter will get you listed in msn which In my opinion is far more important than yahoo . my reasoning behind this is looksmart has a one off fee right now and yahoo is a yearly one.
Go with looksmart before they move to a yearly fee .

**TimSchroeder** · 03-01-2002, 08:23 PM

Hey maluk,

I hope Looksmart does not go to a yearly fee also! Doesnt MSN use DMOZ results also (as well as Looksmart)?

I have a question about Yahoo if you know...

If you get into Yahoo for free, do they automatically delete your listed after that year? The fee for Yahoo is pretty steep at the moment for the average site, but it in some cases is worth the fee IMO (I usually get in free eventually)....

**maluk** · 10:06 AM

Hello again,
No dmoz (open directory) do not supply results to msn.
Sites in MSN appear in this order:

Popular Search Topics (Direct Hit)
Featured Sites (Includes reviewed sites, RealNames, and MSN sponsors)
Web Directory Sites (LookSmart sites)
Web Pages (Inktomi Sites)

MSN is now displaying Overture listings as well. For queries using specific search terms as identified by MSN and Overture, three Overture-served results appear in a separate section labeled "sponsored sites" directly below the "featured sites" listings on a result page.

Inktomi are great if you need to optimise a site for msn as they respider your site every 48 hours making it easier for you to see what helps to gain a higher listing.It costs 39$ for the url (one page) and you can submit your site
here Dont forget that looksmart results will appear before inktomi listing, however if you can find a keyphrase that isnt a match in looksmart then you can gain a number one spot pulled from inktomi.
Ref free listings in yahoo, Im certain that once a site is listed free,the site will remain in their index .
The yearly fee is for commercial sites that use the paid review $299. and is the only way a commercial site will get in the directory.
Hope this helps a little

**loveleaf** · 03-31-2002, 09:54 PM

use Findwhat - 7search - goclick - ahha -
little on brainfox - but VERY minimal traffic.

google also provides an increasing amount of non-ppc traffic.