LunarPages are now offering 15000000MB (15TB) bandwidth and 1500000MB (1.5TB) storage space on their plans.

Wow...talk about overselling a plan and hoping it doesn't bite you in the ***.

This is also an affiliate link drop.

Yeah, it's like second nature to me when I'm blogging or posting on forums to embed any text keywords as affiliate links. It's the occupation of the future of passive income earning. Of course I made the post with a primary intiative to post news, and an affiliate link secondary. Yet I suppose your post is inferring that this isn't allowed here, in which case I guess I have to cop it being removed. Oh well.

I think this is the most I've ever seen a major reputable hosting company offer on a standard plan!

Originally Posted by alexd181

Yet I suppose your post is inferring that this isn't allowed here, in which case I guess I have to cop it being removed. Oh well.

Yet I suppose you're not aware that you can edit your rule-breaking post to correct this small mistake. Oh well.

It's the occupation of the future of passive income earning.

* shakes his head * You've got a lot to learn, kid.

In the meantime...moderators, a removal please.

Apart from the fact that this is blatant overselling, this seems to be the biggest offer I've seen, any other host wins this crazy overseller contest?

I was just wondering if there are contest to award any account owner that can utilize these plan to it's fullest without being kick out.

Well LunarPages have one of the best reputations out of most hosting companies I know, so this did surprise me.

ADAM Web Design, I'm not a kid, and perhaps you are the one that has a lot to learn. I have a college degree in I.T., I think I've learned enough to state my opinion on web-based affiliation strategies.

Moxxnixx, I know I can, but it's my free speech. If moderators want to impede on that then that is their error by example, I won't make it for them. Some of us do have a free mind (at least somewhat free) around here

Free speech is one thing, but we here at WMT have RULES and one of them is not allowing affiliate link drops. If you want to advertise your hosting, do so in the Marketplace where it belongs - but you need 15 posts in order to advertise, so read the forum rules !

Originally Posted by alexd181

ADAM Web Design, I'm not a kid, and perhaps you are the one that has a lot to learn. I have a college degree in I.T., I think I've learned enough to state my opinion on web-based affiliation strategies.

Uh huh. So you're one of those who believes a piece of paper that establishes absolutely nothing about one's intelligence or ability to learn is supposed to impress people, and those who don't have the piece of paper are automatically inferior. You can state whatever BS opinion you want, but a turd log floating in a toilet by any other name is still a turd log floating in a toilet. And this is a turd log floating in a toilet.

For those who may think that this is a legitimate offer, consider some simple math here: A 1.5 terabyte hard drive, if you're lucky, will cost around $350 USD. That's just the hard drive. That doesn't factor in all the other parts that go into a server. Just the hard drive.

If this plan isn't oversold, simple math teaches us that someone who signed up for the plan would have to use it for over 50 months (4 years, 2 months, and 10-11 days depending on the month) just to cover the cost of the hard drive. That doesn't even factor in all of the other stuff.

Let's see what happens when bandwidth leeches start taking advantage of it by running video sites or some other resource-intensive stuff on it. Either the user gets his/her account mysteriously cancelled for "abuse of server/CPU resources" or something along those lines, or the host loses money. History has shown us this time and time again (although not so much as of the past couple of years...this was far more prevalent at the turn of the millenium).

These are the kinds of things you need to learn, Alex...that, and affiliate link dropping on most forums, particularly web design forums, will get you nowhere. You can have whatever opinion you want on the subject, but you're pulling the same stunt that millions before you over the past 10 years have pulled, that millions after you will pull long after you've given up because you didn't get rich quick, and millions before and after you will fail miserably with.

You're just lucky you stumbled upon a place where someone's willing to tell you that before you waste any more time. I doubt you'll accept that as an explanation, but I actually wrote this more for other people who might try the same silly stunt you did.

So, once again...you've got a lot to learn, kid.

The numbers have long been meaningless in the budget hosting area of the market. You pay ~$10 per month, you share the server with 200+ other customers, and that's in a good case. That means you'll be bugging down the server way before you reach any of those space and transfer non-limitations.

You mean unlimited bandwidth and hard drive space has no meaning and doesn't exist?

If you tell me the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Eskimoes don't exist, I'm outta here.

ADAM Web Design, it seemed to impress my last 3 employers who I did SEO and web marketing for, but that doesn't matter, your opinion is the only absolute one. Since it is so absolute, shall I remove this thread altogether by deleting my first post? If it honestly means so much to you, if you think it's all **** and everything I say is ****, then I'll do it, just for you to feel better. The last thing I want to do is be put into a position of defending a company I have used for years (on the basis that my sole evidence for their reliability would be personal experience). Would you like me to delete this thread now?

You don't get it, do you?

There's a difference between relaying something based on personal experience and dropping an affiliate link. Dropping an affiliate link establishes a bias, whether you choose to accept that or not, and there's no way now that your opinion can be taken objectively on the subject as a result.

In case you haven't noticed, my opinion on the subject of the hosting isn't a sole opinion. There are two other people who basically said the same thing. Why aren't you ragging on them? You just picked the person who had the stones to tell you first that what you're doing is silly, and you reacted the same way spammers usually react when they get caught and called out for it.

Personally, I say leave it up at this point. The only thing that needed to be removed was the affiliate link, and it was.

As far as your "last three employers" are concerned, let them be impressed by your degree. If they're like most SEO companies, they're probably blackhat politically-minded link mongers who probably sent you out on link building missions because some so-called industry leader told them that this was how to get Guaranteed Page 1 Rank in Google. Suppose you name those companies (without affiliate link dropping, of course.)

No, not quite. I can see the source of your stereotyping me, which is fair enough because I don't place my value as a person on one post - but someone who sees me based on one post can do so any way they like. I just don't like being called names, such as a kid, and it's not like my affiliate link upset Ladyn and hurt his/her feelings and everyone else here and actually made them feel objectified and insulted by my plugging Lunarpages, where as being called a kid does. I realize you may have not intended it to, so I'll stop getting defensive.

I'll leave the thread up as all other issues raised just do not pertain (any longer) to this thread, so we can go on discussing the Lunarpages upgrade. I noticed a lot of companies nowadays are offering 5TB+, is the general view that they are all overselling?

is the general view that they are all overselling?

Sure they are. 5TB of data transfer, if actually used, would mean a cost of $500+.

Hi All -

You know, I went over to Luna Pages and checked their comprehensive hosting overview page (no affiliate link drop here), and could not find the plan mentioned. I did see a Dedicated Server offering "1,000 to 2,000 Gigs data transfer" per month -- 1.95 Terabytes approx. -- for $99 per month. So what was the cost of the 15TB mo. plan, and where is it listed?

Adam wrote: "Uh huh. So you're one of those who believes a piece of paper that establishes absolutely nothing about one's intelligence or ability to learn is supposed to impress people, and those who don't have the piece of paper are automatically inferior. You can state whatever BS opinion you want, but a turd log floating in a toilet by any other name is still a turd log floating in a toilet. And this is a turd log floating in a toilet."

Interesting. I guess all of that guy's professors, his dean, and the entire college are out to lunch in your book. And, precisely what, Adam, establishes your credibility here?

Maybe I've got it wrong... but your opinions, and the way you negatively express them are well known here. You pride yourself at your website with the idea that "I’m that guy that you quite often see ripping into an idiot for pissing me off by doing something thoroughly stupid and preventable." Yet, many of your own statements are equally debatable to those with whom you disagree so obnoxiously.

Do you believe you are some sort of non-credentialed expert here? Maybe even a legend? Be careful that you are not becoming a legend in your own mind.

- Scott

Adam's point regarding the degree, I think, is that for the most part, a piece of paper is pretty meaningless and in no way makes anyone an 'expert' if there is no REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. I have a degree in IT too.. only back then they called it 'data processing'. My 30 years of WORK experience in IT is far more valuable than that degree. Anyone can get a degree, that doesn't mean you know what you're doing in a real world situation - few things work the same in the real world as they do in a text book ! I know people with advanced degrees in many fields who have never worked a DAY in that field -- so the degree is meaningless except that they put forth the effort (and they money) to get it.

Someone with a degree does not impress me much... show me what you know and apply it and THEN I might be impressed !

Hi Lady -

I agree that a degree proves nothing yet in the "real world" (unless the guy has done a "real world" internship or side job as many college students do).

But what Adam actually said was, "So you're one of those who believes a piece of paper that establishes absolutely nothing about one's intelligence or ability to learn is supposed to impress people, and those who don't have the piece of paper are automatically inferior." He then included some rude discourse about defecation.

I still disagree with that quoted statement. To say that a degree ("piece of paper") establishes absolutely nothing about one's intelligence or "ability to learn" would simply be ludicrous if it wasn't also disrespectful to institutes of higher education.

Can you learn IT on your own? Sure. Is real world learning better than a college degree? Again I believe so, and am with you on that. But is a degree meaningless? I think not.

And I am becoming increasingly surprised that you would support one with such a bile filled mouth, foul temper, and squalid attitude which only has a chilling effect on the forums that you moderate.

Yours -
Scott

Originally Posted by alexd181

Would you like me to delete this thread now?

Only admins and mods can delete threads.

Originally Posted by OSWebMaster

Interesting. I guess all of that guy's professors, his dean, and the entire college are out to lunch in your book. And, precisely what, Adam, establishes your credibility here?

You do realize that he has the most Talkupation, he's been here since 2005, and along with over 5,000 posts, right? He's made numerous valuable contributions to the forums, and he's pointed *many* newbies in the right direction. (And he did explain the math behind it in the same post.)

What's obnoxious here is someone violating the forum rules, spamming his company's name, coming into the Web Hosting Forum (not Web Hosting offers and requests), dropping affiliate links (which are clearly not allowed), claiming to have foreknowledge of the future ("It's the occupation of the future of passive income earning") and flaunting his college degree, as if it somehow makes him better than the rest of us.

I can understand taking the college comments a little personally (being a college instructor yourself), but don't you think Adam has the right to feel a little teed off about it???

Originally Posted by OSWebMaster

And I am becoming increasingly surprised that you would support one with such a bile filled mouth, foul temper, and squalid attitude which only has a chilling effect on the forums that you moderate.

And how does this excuse these (and more) remarks which in and of themselves sound condescending and/or rude (not to mention all the self-promo / link drop posts you made in previous threads, which aren't allowed):

Originally Posted by OSWebMaster

What is important are techniques that work. Pulling people off topic with attempts to contradict reality is really boring

Originally Posted by OSWebMaster

The gang's all here! Great. Thanks for agreeing with me Adam -- I love you, too.

Originally Posted by OSWebMaster

There is no "burden of proof" for simple, self-evident statements like, "well placed links will build traffic to your own site." It's that simple. Links get clicked, when placed correctly. It's common sense.