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Old 11-16-2008, 04:32 PM Thoughts on Master Resellers
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How do you guys feel about Master Reseller Packages? We've decided to give them a go, at BLD Hosting. So far so good, no sales, but no problems either - at least none while testing!

What do you guys have to say about such packages? I know that over at web hosting talk not too many approve.
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Old 11-16-2008, 04:50 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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nothing do do with the thread but the next post is #1000 for you
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:07 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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An off topic post, deserves an off topic response!

Thanks for noticing . Here's the Big 1 0 0 0 post http://www.webmaster-talk.com/genera...r-drawing.html

Only 13, 672 posts until I beat you, watch out!
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:10 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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A little pricey. And your 96% uptime really just kills a lot of purchases. According to your webhostingstuff.com page you have 100% uptime. I would change that 96% uptime guarantee to 99% or 99.9
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:19 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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Ah, maybe you've misunderstood the point of the thread. I wasn't asking for a "review" of my services - nor of my guarantees. I was just wondering what your thoughts about "Master Resellers" are in general.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:27 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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I think that you need to wait little bit. Maybe run promotions on them to see if they are in demand. Here is nothing to review. You will see that yourself.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:16 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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Master resellers extend the ever massive chain of web hosting. Only provide master resellers to people that are willing. Introducing master resellers could mean people asking for alpha resellers and super alpha resellers.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:41 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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Ah, maybe you've misunderstood the point of the thread. I wasn't asking for a "review" of my services - nor of my guarantees. I was just wondering what your thoughts about "Master Resellers" are in general.
Yes I did that. And I said that it was pricey and that people will less likely buy them because of the uptime.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:34 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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Master resellers extend the ever massive chain of web hosting. Only provide master resellers to people that are willing. Introducing master resellers could mean people asking for alpha resellers and super alpha resellers.
Ah, I'd never go that far! It's just ridiculous. At one point one should move on to a VPS and/or dedicated server. That can act as your "alpha master reseller".

Master resellers are already relatively close. I just decided that it'd be ideal for those whom don't want to learn how to manage a system.

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A little pricey. And your 96% uptime really just kills a lot of purchases. According to your webhostingstuff.com page you have 100% uptime. I would change that 96% uptime guarantee to 99% or 99.9
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Yes I did that. And I said that it was pricey and that people will less likely buy them because of the uptime.
Where in your post do you say anything about the idea of a master reseller itself. I DID NOT ask you to review my website, service, guarantees, or effectiveness.
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:38 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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I just decided that it'd be ideal for those whom don't want to learn how to manage a system.
They can get a managed VPS?

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Master resellers extend the ever massive chain of web hosting.
I agree. It's bad enough that becoming a host is so easy and cheap. Now you can pretend you're a "big" host too, and offer reseller accounts, when you're barely suited to be a reseller yourself.

From a provider's POV, I guess I can understand it though. If there's a demand, it makes sense to cater to it.
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:18 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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From a provider's POV, I guess I can understand it though. If there's a demand, it makes sense to cater to it.
Dan is right. But to understand if there a demand yiou need at least give that a try.
First month and years are very difficult ones.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:19 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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The problem is that a server can get quickly overrun with master reseller accounts on it. The server would have to be constantly monitored to make sure that it isn't becoming overpopulated and if the plans are successful, would have to constantly make server changes to isolate the bigger resellers from the pack so they don't overtake the server.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:48 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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That should be not only monitored but that should be controlled as well. You need to avoid loading more then 40% of server sources.
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:30 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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I think as long as you do not promote or allow over selling there is nothing wrong with this, but if you have sellers over selling there accounts, it leads to a very high server load.
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:33 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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I'm sure that those "unlimited Master Resellers" can quickly get out of hand - but what about setting a limit on the number of resellers they can create?
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:26 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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With sufficiently limited disk space and data transfer, and/or overselling disabled for resellers and/or limited number of resellers, I suppose this can be managed, somewhat.

There remains the problem of the chain of support, where the end user asks the reseller asking the master reseller asking the alpha reseller asking the dedicated server admin to address an issue.

In reality though, these accounts are often sold by small type providers, come with unlimited everything and overselling enabled. A recipe for disaster.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:08 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:30 PM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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master reseller software is a bit unstable and contains multiple security issues. there was one that even included a back door program
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:19 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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If you can run your hosting service efficiently and never sell any unlimited master resellers, it' Okay. In my opinion no host should oversell their hosting, nor let their resellers and master resellers oversell. You should take care of the interests of everyone, including the end users.

I had to see a company very closely scamming people by offering unlimited resellers and master resellers for a couple of bucks each. When they made enough money, they simply sold it to a somewhat big company and the rest is nothing but scammed people crying over the old and new management alike. People who follow these kind of business practices should be hanged.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:37 AM Re: Thoughts on Master Resellers
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The furthest I would go would be selling Master reseller accounts, alpha resellers would get out of hand very quickly
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