Hosts out there advertise that they're minimizing CO2 emissions, and act as if they're contributing to the overall well being of our planet (preventing "global warming"). Empirical data, however, states that climate change is a natural cycle that is mainly dependent on the sun's activity. It has no correlation with human activity - and gas emissions into the atmosphere do not have any significant impact.

How do you think that fits into their advertising campaign?

They're just jumping on the bandgwagon of the current flavour of the month.

Just a few years ago all the big companies/corporates suddenly started touting "fairtrade" goods despite the whole Fairtrade concept being around for decades before hand. If Fair Trade hadn't got into the mainsteam media they wouldn't have bothered - same goes for "green" hosting.

Just my 10p's worth

I don't think anyone really knows for sure what's wrong with the climate.

That being said, being green is a way to put on some "good guy" clothes. The route that is chosen (carbon credits, putting energy from renewable resources back into the grid etc.) is always the easy one. You don't see hosts putting up pictures with way in which employees help minimize impact on the environment every step of the way, detailing their new policies and technology that help achieve that goal.

"Green" is already common and past its prime (at least in hosting). Now it's all about the virtualization and the cloud.

There's a great deal of research done to show the correlation between greenhouse gasses and climate change. I've also done a bit of research on the topic.

In 1999, Fischer et al. examined the records of atmospheric CO2 and air temperature. Evidence from Antarctic Vostok ice cores - which extend back in time across a quarter of a million years - allowed for this to be achievable. Over this immense time period, the three most dramatic warming events experienced on earth were those associated with the terminations of the last three ice ages; and for each and every one of these temperature fluctuations, Earth's air temperature rose well before there was any increase in atmospheric CO2. In fact, the air's CO2 content did not begin to rise until 400 to 1,000 years after the planet began to warm. This shows a direct correlation between temperature and CO2 gasses. However, the correlation is not coherent with the popular theory of the “greenhouse effect”. It was later deduced that CO2 levels rose because of the increase in temperature. That is to say that CO2 levels are an effect of an increase in global temperature. It seems that cause and effect have been misinterpreted.

Anyway, that's my thought on the matter. I always run into these kind of hosts - and never really understood why most of them don't care to do some research. I mean "Green Hosting" could definitely be a great idea. Using renewable resources, planting a tree for every x customers, and following through with earth hour. I just don't like how most of the hosts refer specifically to CO2 emissions, green house gases, and how it's effecting Earth on a global level.

Now it's all about the virtualization and the cloud.

So what's the hype telling us about this?

I really doubt anyone cares what a web host is doing as long as their prices are good, i mean a lot of sites that are promoting green type subjects may look for web hosting that is green but the average person who is looking for web hosting is just looking for the best deal possible.

Originally Posted by andrei155

Hosts out there advertise that they're minimizing CO2 emissions, and act as if they're contributing to the overall well being of our planet (preventing "global warming"). Empirical data, however, states that climate change is a natural cycle that is mainly dependent on the sun's activity. It has no correlation with human activity - and gas emissions into the atmosphere do not have any significant impact.

How do you think that fits into their advertising campaign?

Hello,

I couldn't agree more with you. I also do not believe in global warming/climate change as I have also done allot of research on the topic. The "climate change committee" and made up of politicians and government representatives rather than scientists that know what they're taking about. As you said our planet goes through stages of temperature increase and decrease over periods of one hundred + years. Many scientists say that our planet has been much hotter before. For those interested in seeing climate change from the scientists point of view I recommend the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpWa7VW-OME

As far as web hosting companies offering "green" hosting they are simply taking advantage of the current trend which is understandable.

Jack

I think the tag "green" is used for the marketing goals only. That is obvious.
That is my own point of view.

Do you think that your potencial client would care about your green politics and policies? We have been running few months with banners shouting that we are green, but you know the best conversion was when we have changed the banners to get something free get more some extra, etc.
So I guess they really do not care about it. The most impact what could be achieved that would be to huge corporations those like IBM, HP or DELL. It is really important for them to remain and become 'green' of their technologies, because their main customers are data centers and other related industries which care about power consuption and lower electricity bills.

I was not much aware of green hosting, but after reading this post i got much information.looking forward for more info.

Originally Posted by casius

Do you think that your potencial client would care about your green politics and policies? We have been running few months with banners shouting that we are green, but you know the best conversion was when we have changed the banners to get something free get more some extra, etc.
So I guess they really do not care about it. The most impact what could be achieved that would be to huge corporations those like IBM, HP or DELL. It is really important for them to remain and become 'green' of their technologies, because their main customers are data centers and other related industries which care about power consuption and lower electricity bills.

I don't like manipulating people. I feel that the general public lack the ability to distinguish reliable information. By becoming a part of mainstream media - which is the sole purpose of your website - and advertising the very same tricks/ scandals being pulled by multiple government associations, you are aiding in the so-called "brainwashing". My original question was about this. As you said, customers don't really care about whether you're green or not. If this is the case, why do you continue to advertise it and further spread the idea of human induced climate change - which has been proven to be false?

I don't like manipulating people. I feel that the general public lack the ability to distinguish reliable information. By becoming a part of mainstream media - which is the sole purpose of your website - and advertising the very same tricks/ scandals being pulled by multiple government associations, you are aiding in the so-called "brainwashing". My original question was about this. As you said, customers don't really care about whether you're green or not. If this is the case, why do you continue to advertise it and further spread the idea of human induced climate change - which has been proven to be false?

I believe that is a catch for the customers which support Green peace. I believe that is used for them.

"Green" is a popular buzzword nowdays and it's exploited in advertising just like all other similar buzz-words (I've just seen HD lens for eyeglasses... yeah, right).

From my experience "green" hosts to little beyond having a recycle bin for office paper and reprinting "green" features of the hardware they use: idling CPUs, "green" WD HDDs etc that pretty much all hosts do anyway.

It's free for them and pleasant for people who care about green. So why not?

Everyone can support or not support that. But for web hosts that is only marketing tricks.
However that is my point of view as their competitor.

i think Green or Eco-friendly website hosting is a recent addition to the field of website hosting which involves a given website hosting company

I am not aware of green hosting, but after reading this post i know about green hosting information.

I think being greed was designed by marketers. In reality I dont think we are having an effect on the earths atmosphere. Im pretty sure humans would account for less then 10% of gasses being emitted. The majority come from volcanoes no?

The only "Green" hosting I will be choosing is the one that SAVES me a lot of green.

<removed> lower prices are all I need. I don't want to pay more for gimmicks like "save the environment" hosting.

The only "Green" hosting I will be choosing is the one that SAVES me a lot of green.

Nope. I think "green" web hosting solutions always more expensive then traditional web hosting services.

Originally Posted by andrei155

I don't like manipulating people. I feel that the general public lack the ability to distinguish reliable information. By becoming a part of mainstream media - which is the sole purpose of your website - and advertising the very same tricks/ scandals being pulled by multiple government associations, you are aiding in the so-called "brainwashing". My original question was about this. As you said, customers don't really care about whether you're green or not. If this is the case, why do you continue to advertise it and further spread the idea of human induced climate change - which has been proven to be false?

Without getting into a serious debate over your claim that "climate change" has been proven false, there are some "green" hosts that (a) disagree with your political and scientific conclusions and (b) spend a heck of a lot of both time and money to make sure that their business is carbon neutral.

Claiming that is "manipulation" on the part of everyone is essentially the same holier than thou Bull your accusing people of to start.

Oh, and nice to meet you.

Claiming that is "manipulation" on the part of everyone is essentially the same holier than thou Bull your accusing people of to start.

Yes that is the same. I think there is small part of web hosts which describe their power supply. Only small part of web hosts would like to know everyone which kind of power supply they use.