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Old 04-10-2007, 02:50 AM Linux of Windows
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I am looking for a host and was wondering what package I should get... cPanel linux or windows plesk???

I know I will be doing html pages, css and some flash but will that work on both?

What is the difference? Which one is better?

Need some advice... thanks!
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:52 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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cPanel linux is better. It is most popular and standard among web hosts.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:29 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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ablaye, I think it would be more useful to explain in what way cPanel is the better choice?

You're not comparing like for like:
cPanel and Plesk are similar yet different; functionally there is little to choose between them - they are both very popular industry-standard control panels, although cPanel is probably more widespread.

As a provider with experience of both, I would recommend Plesk as it is likely to offer a more stable and secure platform for you. cPanel has certain "features" that cause it to break itself.

I also have a personal preference to Plesk's user interface, but since cPanel can be skinned, you shouldn't have too much difficultly finding providers that are using something much better than cPanel's default interface - so I expect that you would find them both easy to use.

The other issue is Windows or Linux. (There are Plesk versions for both that are near identical to use, and in terms of features).

You will usually find that Windows is more expensive, because there are costs that just don't exist with Linux (e.g. the operating system). It also requires more hardware resources in order to run (just the basic operating system - regardless of actually hosting anything etc.).

In addition to that, there are definitely more providers offering Linux than Windows - more competition means that pricing is more competitive, but beware of trying to find the cheapest provider, because you're looking for value which is rarely the same (the cheapest providers tend to be either very large - usually poor customer service; or very small - usually little technical knowledge, experience, and without 24x7 technical support).

Reasons to consider Windows hosting:
  • ASP.NET
  • MSSQL server (not usually offered as standard, but perhaps available at additional cost); may also be available with a Linux hosting plan from some providers
They have to be the main reasons - I'm sure some Windows fans could think of more?

I would suggest that if you don't expect that you will need, or know that you don't need, anything listed above then you probably want Linux based hosting.

Some people will argue that Linux is more reliable, stable, secure etc. than Windows, but this is not really the case with the latest breed of Windows server products; Windows can be equally as reliable/stable/secure providing that the provider knows how to manage it - which is of course the same disclaimer that applies to Linux anyway!

HTML, CSS, Flash etc. are all client-side (i.e. the server just needs to send files to the browser - it doesn't need to know how to process them in any special way); you can use these with either Windows or Linux, and any control panel software.

PHP is probably the most popular scripting language - you'll find plenty of open source applications available for you to use, and it's probably one of the easiest scripting languages to learn via the Internet because of the large number of people who can point you in the right direction when you get stuck (plus lots of tutorials, articles etc.). PHP is available on Linux and Windows, but I would recommend using it on Linux where possible because there are a few strange bugs/differences in the Windows version.

There are numerous database engines for Linux - most popular has to be MySQL (also available on Windows), but PostgreSQL is also fairly popular. Both work well and are likely to suit your needs for any future database related upgrade to your website.

I think that explains most of the issues in your decision. Please feel free to ask if you want any more advice - just remember that you're comparing difference technologies (Windows/Linux) AND different control panels (cPanel/Plesk). There are numerous other control panels for both platforms, and there's no reason to think that either of those are the best options for either platform.

Select between Windows/Linux first, then consider which control panel software. If you haven't used any and don't already have a preference, I would suggest that the actual provider is a more important consideration than the control panel - people looking for a specific control panel generally do so because it's the one they're familiar with having used it with a previous host.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:36 PM Re: Linux of Windows
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damien_ls: Thanks for your reply.

I am about to purchase a control panel for myself as I am moving all my web sites from hosting providers (VPS) to my own servers. One things not mentioned in most posts is the cost of cPanel vs Plesk. There is a huge difference. cPanel does not offer (to the best of my ability to see) several levels as does Plesk. A cPanel license for a new purchase is $1500. A 30 domain Plesk license is $199. I also need a control panel for both Windows and Linux as I have one of each type of server.

My current VPS provider uses cPanel so I am used to that and I was a bit worried about switching. Your reply helps me feel quite a bit more comfortable about using Plesk and it makes my wallet a whole lot happier.

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Old 04-12-2007, 01:41 PM Re: Linux of Windows
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My current VPS provider uses cPanel so I am used to that and I was a bit worried about switching. Your reply helps me feel quite a bit more comfortable about using Plesk and it makes my wallet a whole lot happier.
Assuming you have (or can get) root access to your VPS (which you should be able to?), Plesk has a migration facility (Plesk Migration Manager) which should be able to help you out.

I'd suggest taking a look on the SWsoft forums for general advice about migrating etc., and also obviously check out the demo on the SWsoft website to make sure the control panel suits your needs.
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:56 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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I think that all will be working fine with Linux. At the same time it is more cheaper solution.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:04 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:51 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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With the latest issue HostGator had with cPanel, I won't bet too much on cPanel. It could be cool for customers, but it's a pain in the *** for hosts.
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Old 04-14-2007, 03:07 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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cPanel linux is quite affordable and that would be one of the best choice.
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Old 04-14-2007, 03:38 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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Well, Linux is really stable and secure. New Windows editions might be equally stable too. But, I won't say they're safe. I've had experience with this. I remember helping my friend. He's a webhost. He went for a vacation and I managed the host site for one week.

Windows had to be Antivirus sealed and updated everyday. While, Linux was working just fine with no antivirus. I love the way linux handled high server usage and linux was more friendly on the hardware.

About cPanel, I'm not sure. I've never used Plesk. So, I recommend cPanel. But, are Fantastico and other stuff available on Plesk too ? I mean, I love Fantastico since many a times, it makes my life easy (I'm really busy you know). So, thats that.

And, Damien, That was an excellent post. Talkupation added .
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:04 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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About cPanel, I'm not sure. I've never used Plesk. So, I recommend cPanel. But, are Fantastico and other stuff available on Plesk too ? I mean, I love Fantastico since many a times, it makes my life easy (I'm really busy you know). So, thats that.
Plesk has a very similiar feature called "Application Vault" - like Fantastico, it isn't a standard feature included with Plesk (i.e. the host has to pay extra for it), but its developed by SWsoft as an official add-on which has certain advantages.

As a host, you can also add your own applications to it etc. so you're not restricted to the ones that SWsoft include (or their versions).

Take a look at the SWsoft website to see the official description if you're interested...

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And, Damien, That was an excellent post. Talkupation added .
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:22 AM Re: Linux of Windows
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I also gave you TP, damien. That was very well said.

Now, since I am one of the "Windows fans", some additional reasons to consider a Windows box:

1) For those who wish to go the dedicated route, you can use Terminal Services Client to access your server and you don't need any additional hosting software. You can put it on if you want, but I've never bothered; it's not necessary.

2) As damien_ls pointed out correctly, as long as your server is kept up-to-date there aren't any issues with it.

3) ASP (as in classic ASP) runs much more stably on a Windows server.

4) Access databases. If you want to build a site and use an Access database, I'm not even sure if you CAN do it on a Linux box but you certainly can with ease on a Windows box.

5) You can pick the brains of chrishirst, ForrestCroce, Learning Newbie and myself for ASP/ASP.NET if you get stuck and we're all smart fellers.

That's about all I can come up with.
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