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Old 02-26-2008, 10:03 PM Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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Hello to all,

I am curious if the Header is the main focal point of your site where you spend a ridiculous amount of time making sure it is just right, and then build your site around it?

or

Build your site and just add some sort of logo and concentrate on the site more than the header?



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Old 02-26-2008, 11:08 PM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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I build a theme, then use the head as a visual mood setter and work out from there. I just recently started creating a color chip chart in Photoshop for my designs.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:10 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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I build around the header. It sets the mood and then i let the creative juices flow from there.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:03 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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"It depends". I've built sites around names, logos, concepts, etc. I don't focus on the header all the time, but sometimes I will spend a bit more time there if things such as navigation belong there.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:19 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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i don't usually build round the header but my portfolio site i created the header and then built round it. take a look it www.timothyblake.com
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:01 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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The selling point of your website is the words on youe. Not headers or graphics or ultra slick nonsense

If you have ever heard Perry Marshall talk you may recall him stating that one of his websites did better without a header graphic than with. And this is the king of testing talking

Focus on your content , put a decent but not too fussy header on and role it out!!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:33 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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Great, another self-anointed Internet marketing leader. Who else has never heard of Perry Marshall before?
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:53 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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Great, another self-anointed Internet marketing leader. Who else has never heard of Perry Marshall before?
Wasn't that Laverne, on Laverne and Shirley?
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:14 PM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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I thought that was Squiggy.
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Old 02-27-2008, 07:02 PM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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That is funny!!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:15 PM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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Y'know, people talk so much about what'll get someone to come to your site, but no one really talks about what'll get 'em to stay or come back. If your overall design isn't aimed at ease of navigation and directing attention toward the main content you've missed the boat entirely. Having relevant content doesn't hurt either. And that means relevant to the target audience.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:20 PM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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All that is well and good, but regularly updated content also helps. If the only thing on the site in the past 5 years, is the same picture of your dog Skippy... all the coolest scripting and designing is for nothing.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:11 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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The header is part of the site, so the question is NULL. I design around concepts, because all that a site is, anymore, is a prettified concept. If you think about what HTML really is, no CSS, no font, no centering, just the tags and nothing but tags and text, no images, nothing, that is HTML, that is what the site truly is, if I go to your site in Lynx and don't want to stay for even a moment, the site has failed.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:12 AM Re: Do you build around the Header? or Site?
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Its definitely not the main focus point of the site no one goes to a site to look at the header and then leaves, but the header is probably the most important graphic on your site. The header img is the “first impression” people get of your site and in that brief second that they look at they will carry that judgment throughout the rest of the site.

Wasn’t Perry Marshall that guy from that old B&W lawyer TV show, no wait that was Perry Mason.
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