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Old 08-06-2008, 11:50 AM Where do I start?
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I just dont know where to start. I am not a designer and cant even think of where to begin to start building this site I have planned out. Besides drawing out a sketch what are some good protocols to use when i finally sit down and start to build a site? I need some direction where to start. It is going to basic information site with a forum and few items for sale. Is there a forum out there that has something like this built in, or should I built a site first then connect the forum to it? Any direction would be great thanks!
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:39 PM Re: Where do I start?
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send me a pm if you want some professional help. but my advised to you is that you should register a domain then get a hosting. i suggest that you use cms rather than customize webpage because if you dont have the skill to design and develop your going to have a hard time setting up one. if you use cms get a forum a vbulletin code and upload it to your hosting and link it to your website. as simple as that
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:43 PM Re: Where do I start?
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Here is actually a good place to start but you'll have to be more specific. What kind of site is it? Need more details then there are a lot of good brains in this place to pop out a few ideas for you.
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:22 PM Re: Where do I start?
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Okay, here it is in a simple 3 step process. Let's get started:

1. You design the website in photoshop, or somehting of this sort. What i mean by design, is truly design. You draw out everything. Every navigation, your header, the border you want, the background. You create everything you want the end user to see. Even create a navigational button, that has the rollover effect on it already. You will use this to create all other roll over effects. So if you have 6 navi buttons, 5 of them will be normal, and the last would have the roll over effect.

Also note that this should be desinged in the quality that you want your website to be viewed. This is NOT a sketch. This will basically be your website in a jpeg.

2.
You take you're now already created website, and you cut it up with the slice tool. I, however, don't like to do it that way. I use the the slection tool, and copy layers into new documents, and then save them seperatley. That's a bit confusing, so all you need to know is that you have to take the seperate images of your large website design, and cut it up. Now, it is important to do this as your coding your website. Don't cut it all up at once, do it as you progress. For example, first create the border with CSS and HTML, then create the header, then the navi buttons, and so on.

As I said, you're going to have to code it now. You'll have to have basic knowledge of HTML, and CSS. They really aren't that hard. I learned CSS in a matter of days. Although I may not be the best, looks like I did okay with my website. It's truly straight forward, and HTML is really simple. Nothing more than a few tags. T olearn CSS, just look at a few examples. No need to read books. Its very straight forward. There are such commands as width, height, font-size ... really easy stuff. just know this:

Quote:
#name{
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
}

#name, this would be referring to a div id of name. You do this in html with:

<div id=name>
whatever goes in here
</div>

the #name would call back to the id=name and set the parameters you give between the { } characters.

Now, the whatever: refers to the parameter, and the something; refers to the setting of that parameter. For example:

width: 90px;

Lastly, know that #name refers to the id of the div, while .name refers to the class of the name. You set it as class, if your using the very same div more than once in the document. So instead of having:

HTML

<div id=name>
fsgs
</div>

<div id=name2>
other stuff
</div>

CSS
#name{
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
}

#nam2{
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
}

You can have:

HTML

<div class=name>
fsgs
</div>

<div class=name>
other stuff
</div>

CSS

.name{
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
whatever: something;
}

As you can see, they share the same CSS bit, but they are two different div's. So ... you only use .name for "class" and #name for "id"

3.
You purchase some hosting, and upload your files! Might i recommend my web host, just because I spent quite a bit of time writing this! lol.

If you need any further assistance, feel free to use the forum, and ask a bit more questions.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:03 PM Re: Where do I start?
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create you site with a cms like joomla so you can easily update it
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:09 PM Re: Where do I start?
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If you'd want to easily update your website, simply split the coding up into three sections:

-Header (header.html)
-Body (body.html)
-Footer (footer.html)

Include all of these in pagename.php. Now, when you create a new page, simply change the name of body.html, but not of header.html and footer.html. Do this with all your pages.

How does this help?
Let's say your website has grown to about 1000 pages of content. Now, your looking to start a new service, so naturally, you'd want to add it to the navigational menu. Problem .. you're going to have to edit 1000 pages. By adding the navi menu in the header.html, and keeping the same file included, you're going to save yourself a lot of time. Simply edit header.html and BAM all pages have undergone the change.
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