in the current scenario what all the skill of webdesigners?

and the current scenario would be what exactly?

Originally Posted by chrishirst

and the current scenario would be what exactly?

as web development,web designing and web marketing are the streams of web are changing. so many software are there like photoshop,dreamweavor, flash,HTML,CSS. scripting language like javascript,VBscript,Ajax, ASP, Perl, CGI and new one in server side is Ruby on Rails. with new technologies like css web designing scenario completly changing. now old table layout are getting replaced by css, PHP geting replaced by Ruby on Rails.. etc. in this context what web designer supposed to learn to become good one.

Server side scripting is Developer territory predominately.

Generally speaking, programmers make poor designers because a logical mind is rarely creative from an artistic point of view, and vice versa. Really good creative designers tend to struggle with the logical processes of programming.

There are of course people who are perfectly capable of both but tend to be around average at any of them and it is a sliding scale in both directions.

The "jack of all trades" designers usually turn out mediocre designs built on inefficient code snippets downloaded from here and there and jammed into service.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Server side scripting is Developer territory predominately.

Generally speaking, programmers make poor designers because a logical mind is rarely creative from an artistic point of view, and vice versa. Really good creative designers tend to struggle with the logical processes of programming.

There are of course people who are perfectly capable of both but tend to be around average at any of them and it is a sliding scale in both directions.

The "jack of all trades" designers usually turn out mediocre designs built on inefficient code snippets downloaded from here and there and jammed into service.

Yes I agree. but you could see in recruitment sites so many web designing vacancies postings requires Programming + designing skills.

This is not to say that designers should not know some code, as it is important for anyone in web-services to be comfortable working on the structure of HTML, CSS, etc.

Yes I agree. but you could see in recruitment sites so many web designing vacancies postings requires Programming + designing skills.

Employers are usually looking for people that are as well rounded as possible. If you read into job listings, you will usually find that most employers desire someone that truly knows one type of skill well, but is knowledgeable about other areas as well. As pointed out above, it is very rare to find a good programmer that is also a good designer, and visa versa.

I would add, however, that most developers need to know something about Photoshop, for example, since it is such a common medium. And most designers need to know HTML and CSS, and should perhaps understand the simple semantics of some other languages as well, without needing to know them deeply. Good companies will have different levels of engineers and a compartmentalized system of building web interfaces.

Originally Posted by wayfarer07

This is not to say that designers should not know some code, as it is important for anyone in web-services to be comfortable working on the structure of HTML, CSS, etc.

Employers are usually looking for people that are as well rounded as possible. If you read into job listings, you will usually find that most employers desire someone that truly knows one type of skill well, but is knowledgeable about other areas as well. As pointed out above, it is very rare to find a good programmer that is also a good designer, and visa versa.

I would add, however, that most developers need to know something about Photoshop, for example, since it is such a common medium. And most designers need to know HTML and CSS, and should perhaps understand the simple semantics of some other languages as well, without needing to know them deeply. Good companies will have different levels of engineers and a compartmentalized system of building web interfaces.

I have to agree with the above points. I personally know how to work most open-source content management systems. Being flexible can give your future clients a better experience, and will diversify your work fields, so you can get more jobs. I think essentials are XTHML, CSS, and Photoshop skills. It's also good to have some working knowledge of PHP and Javascript if you're doing dynamic things.

I would improve your english first, not trying to be harsh or mean, but you will have a hard time getting clients :/

It all depends on your goals as a designer. Do you want to just be a "graphics guy" you can do that. If you want to do complete start to finish jobs for businesses then you should have experience with html css and a graphics suite and also how to set up the websites. If you wish just to code that can work too. Basically, it comes down to if you want a business where you are doing complete websites for small businesses then you should know a bit of everything. If not, specialize in what you want. For example if a client of mine wanted something done in flash, I would go to a forum and contact someone who seems reputable to do the flash portion as I do not know flash. You could do just jobs like that in whatever you are skilled at.