Website Design Forum

**Irish21** · 11-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Hello all,

I build my own sites and they are definitely not top of the line. I know I should learn css, not use frames or tables but I fail on all counts. But for what I use them for they work well enough. That being said I have a problem, when my site is listed by google it has no descriptive text just the title. I don't want to show text on the site since because it won't fit in with with the look of the site but I also don't want to cheat (for example text the same color as the back ground or size set to 0). All I want to ad is a simple honest description of my site to show up in google but can't find a way. Any help would be great! Thank you all for your time.

**chrishirst** · 11-08-2009, 10:16 AM

Don't use frames.

and that is the ONLY method that will accomplish what you want.

**Irish21** · 11-08-2009, 10:25 AM

live and learn. Well I have been looking into css and need to get that up and running but web design is hobby for me so may take a while. Thanks for the help!

**chrishirst** · 11-08-2009, 10:35 AM

Believe it or not, going from frames to CSS layouts will probably be the simplest step. Far easier than going from tables to CSS, which requires a change of mindset.

**Irish21** · 11-08-2009, 10:44 AM

yeah, but I also use tables. don't know why I haven't tried harder to just take the time. Don't have much of I guess. Learning a new language is always hard but fun. Knowing there's no other option should help me make that first step. Cheers.

**chrishirst** · 11-08-2009, 10:54 AM

Well just to show how simple a CSS layout can be to create.
http://www.modtalk.co.uk/_site/layout/three-column/

**Irish21** · 11-08-2009, 11:11 AM

I used "site sucker" to get the files. Thanks. Right now I use dreamweaver mx to build sites. is it possible to use a wysiswyg program like it for css?

**chrishirst** · 11-08-2009, 11:29 AM

None that are specially useful, I have used DW MX to build many sites and layouts in CSS since 2003

CSS layouts are the very last thing you should leave to the vagiaries of some WYSIWYG system.

Most use absolute positioning for everything, which is FAR from ideal.

**Irish21** · 11-08-2009, 11:30 AM

so just coding. well no time like the present. Thanks for all the help. and quick replies! I am out of here.

**Designer-J** · 11-09-2009, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish21

All I want to ad is a simple honest description of my site to show up in google but can't find a way.

Might be a bit late in the day to mention this but your frames are to blame!

You can use includes instead of frames, but thats a whole new ballgame

They are fairly easy to get your head around though.

http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_includes.asp