Website Design Forum

**moet** · 02-24-2005, 09:14 AM

Hello to everybody - this is my first post but I have been looking round for a while

Anyway, I understand that to centre a website absolutely in Dreamweaver I can put the whole site in a table and centre that; however when I do this there is a gap at the top of the screen in IE of about 1cm where the table doesn't quite fill up to the top of the window. Can I get rid of this gap at all? Thanks in advance for your help.

**Padawan** · 02-24-2005, 09:21 AM

Hi and welcome to WT.

Are you getting this problem with a template you are modifying because I had this problem too for a while until I looked at the code and realised there was a "spacer" at the top of the page.

**moet** · 02-24-2005, 10:02 AM

I get the problem when I create a completely new page. I have tried this with a blank page and blank table and still get the gap. I'm not too brilliant with HTML etc; what would I look for to know if a gap was being inserted? Thanks again.

**JohnJ** · 02-25-2005, 07:28 AM

Add topmargin="0" to your main table (the one immediately following the body tag>. Like <table topmargin="0" etc. etc.>

**moet** · 02-25-2005, 12:28 PM

This is the code for the basic table, and wherever I put in 'topmargin 0' I can't make it work. (Incidentally I know webeditor 3 is old - I have Dreamweaver too but I'm just messing about with this for now).

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled</title>
<meta name="generator" content="Namo WebEditor v3.0">
</head>

<body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red">

<p> 
<table border width="793" height="500">
<tr>
<td width="783"><p> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<p> </p>
</body>

</html>

**QueenOfStarwars** · 02-25-2005, 08:33 PM

Hi there. You have extra code that is causing the problem.

In your code, you have:
==================================
body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red">
<p> 
<table border width="793" height="500">
==================================

The paragraph and non-breaking space after the body and before the table is putting extra white space at the top. If you delete, you'll notice the difference.

To rid yourself of ALL of the white space, then enter the information provided by JohnJ.

Hope this helps!
Jeannie

**moet** · 02-26-2005, 10:32 AM

That's great! Thanks very much again for your help; removing the extra bits of code shifted the table up a bit.
Unfortunately there is still a small white gap at the top of the page in IE and I can't seem to get rid of it where I put the topmargin=0 command. Any ideas where it should go?

I must thank you for the help again; I'm just learning this stuff and I'm sure you must be shaking your head at my lack of knowledge of the most basic stuff.

**QueenOfStarwars** · 02-27-2005, 09:48 AM

Don't worry about asking questions!!! I ask questions all the time and I do this as my full-time job.

If you could send a link to your page or even if you could send your page code, that'd help

**davemies** · 02-27-2005, 10:13 AM

set your page margins to zero

<body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">

(i assume you're not using css)

**moet** · 02-27-2005, 01:06 PM

Thanks again for the information; I've finally made it work at last! I think the problem might have been trying to use the code in Namo webeditor; when I tried the same bits of code in Dreamweaver it worked perfectly but in Namo I was always stuck with the white space at the top.
Thanks again.
Incidentally I don't have a website yet so couldn't post my efforts for you to see.
As a matter of interest I've only just started to look at HTML/Dreamweaver etc and I'm finding the whole thing a bit overwhelming; there seems to be so much to learn - particularly as I have all the Macromedia stuff. I hope everyone else found this too?

**davemies** · 02-27-2005, 03:31 PM

of course it's all a bit confusing at first and it takes some time but it's good fun along the way!
this is a good place to start
http://www.w3schools.com/
and of course bringing things up in the forums which is a good place to get help from those who have been there before