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Old 08-08-2006, 03:13 PM my website
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hi, i have just set up a web design website called arc web design studios galway over 2 months ago and hasnt yet been found by google - do you have any suggestions

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Old 08-11-2006, 12:01 AM Re: my website
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Dont know if this will help, but its straight from google.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:52 AM Re: my website
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It's in there now. Are you looking for it to come up in specific keywords?
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Old 09-04-2006, 04:06 PM Re: my website
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just make sure that you get decent amount of links pointing to the website (from related web sites) too to start on the optimisation road, as well as on page optimisation of course.


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Old 09-05-2006, 06:19 PM Re: my website
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Here's a few suggestions:

-dump the tables and do the site in HTML and CSS - that means lose the morass of deprecated <font> and <center> tags and use CSS to specify your presentation.
- use proper semantic markup with headings and good content
- Don't use image maps for your navigation, search engine spiders can't read images

In Firefox, your main content is pushed so far down the page no one can read anything that's really important about your site when they first land on it.
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:39 PM Re: my website
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OriginalConcept, put your request for reviews in the Website Review forum.
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:30 PM Re: my website
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aidan,

You are a Web site designer/developer. You are going to NEED to learn more about SEO yourself. The simple question that you ask here isn't good enough. You really neeed to roll up your sleeves and learn this stuff. SEO is so important today that web sites need to be, atleast, developed with the ability to optimize easily.

I have been called in for optimizataion on web sites that have just been created and I have informed the Site owner that they need to redesgin their web site because the current site is not worthy of doing well in the search engines. You don't want your clients to be in this circumstance and you be in this position.

Spend some time at High Rankings Forum and learn about seo. (Remember that this it the forum for web design, so stick around here too.) Learn the basics, then ask questions. "How come my site isn't ranking in Google?" is not a valid question. This makes me think about someone asking, "how do I build a rocket ship to the moon?" Well, you learn how to build a rocket ship to the moon. SEO isn't roclet science by any means, but you need to learn SEO before you ask about it. Or hire someone else to do it for you.

Don't get me wrong aidan, I'm not being abrassive. At least I'm not trying to be. I am just trying to let you know what you need to do... Learn SEO! Go for it!
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:36 PM Re: my website
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originalconcept,

Sorry but just gotta say this looks like spam..??!!??

If you are a Web page designer that has created all of these sites, you need to be past the point of getting the approval of other site developers.

And, do you really expect us to review everyone of these sites?

* Just curious why many of the sites you have put identical links too them.?? Sorry it looks like spam.

**Plus it is rude to bust in on a question asked by someone else. Start your own thread next time and as LadynRed stated. Use the right forum.
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Old 09-17-2006, 05:08 PM Re: my website
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have you added your url http://www.google.com/addurl/ .
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:47 PM Re: my website
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have you added your url http://www.google.com/addurl/ .
The add url funtion from Google doesn't really do that much for you. Google would much rather find your pages through natural spidering. When you use the add url feature from Google, you are letting them know about the page, but this doesn't stimulate the Googlebot to go out and spider your page any sooner. However, if there are no in bound links to your site, it isn't going to do much good.

Most people notice many times that when Google discovers their Web site it shows up in the serps. Then, after a few days, maybe a week usually at the most, the site drops completely off the face of the Google map. This is because of the lack of in bound links.

The best thing to do is to let Google find your pages autonomously. And the googlebot will find them. Just get links from other sites that are getting spidered rather frequently. The best place to start is from you Web designer. He should be able to add your site to his pages. Also, both forum profile pages, and your signature in Forum Threads. Other ways of getting your site discovered naturally is by finding some reputable directories for you type of business. Do yo ubelong to your local chamber of commerce? Make sure your new site is listed in their index of members.

Plus of course remember the aging delay for Google with new sites. I've seent this take as much as 10 - 12 months. Normal is around six.

The key to great serp listings is Hard Work and Patience.
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:59 AM Re: my website
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I used http://www.google.com/addurl/ and my website was found fine, within a week.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:23 PM Re: my website
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Hey,

Biggest way to get noticed by google, is go nuts on the Meta Keywords. I believe there is a way also to submit your site to google. But it still won't come up unless you've gone crazy with Meta tag keywords.

http://validator.w3.org/ <- learn how to validate your site to STRICT it will help ditch all the deprecated tags as well as make you a better coder. It is also a royal pain in the but to validate strict, but not impossible. Want help validating or removing deprecated tags im me on AIM : spcemnspiff2

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Old 10-22-2006, 10:19 PM Re: my website
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Biggest way to get noticed by google, is go nuts on the Meta Keywords. I believe there is a way also to submit your site to google. But it still won't come up unless you've gone crazy with Meta tag keywords.

http://validator.w3.org/ <- learn how to validate your site to STRICT it will help ditch all the deprecated tags as well as make you a better coder. It is also a royal pain in the but to validate strict, but not impossible. Want help validating or removing deprecated tags im me on AIM : spcemnspiff2

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I don't know where you got this information SpacemanSpiff, but it is incorrect. It is a myth that meta keyword does anything for search engine placements, especially Google. The Google algorythm give the meta keywords tag the weight of about 1/50 of 1%. Thats all it's worth.

Using the keywords on your web pages (in a natural way) within the text, and having other quality sites linking to your site. This is what gets a web page to the top of Google and most other search engines.

You can stuff all of the keywords you want in the meta tags, and it isn't going to make much of a differnece at all.

Plus. If you submit your site to Google with their addurl feature, it isn't going to do much good. ONce Google has your site in its database it is going to start analyizing it. If you do not have any inbound links to your site, just being listed in their index isn't going to get you listed in the serps!

When Google spiders a web page it follows most of the links it encounters. If Google finds your link on another site and comes to your site, it means much more than if you submit your site to them with their url submit page.

Since they are not going to list you in the serps until your site is worthy, why not just let them find you through the natural process. Google will like your site a lot more when they find you this way.

AND just to reiterate: THe keyword met tag doesn't accomplish anything for search engine placement... ! ! !
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:43 AM Re: my website
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Thankyou Chip, I guess I stand corrected. I was always under the impression that Meta tag keywords did help a great deal. So then my question would be if its utterly useless then what is the point in them?
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:40 AM Re: my website
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The keyword meta tag is used by seo specialists many times just as a reference. A place to list the keywords that a page is optimized for. Nothing more than a reference.

There are more legitimate uses for the tag. In some applications, usually within a companies intranet site, search systems can be set up that utilize this tag.

The keyword meta tag seems like a useful aspect of search on the surface, but thinking about it, how could it be effective with billions of web pages? It really does make sense that the se's do not use this tag when you factor in what they are trying to accomplish. It take more than a list of keywords to have a page rank well. (Plus, the keyword meta tag is too easily abused.)

Many other thousands of pages are going to have these same keywords on them. How would the search engines utilize the keyword meta tag to perform with reasonable results?

When you go to Google/MSN/Yahoo/Ask you expect to find relevant pages to assist you in getting things done. You expect the search engines to give you quality pages instead of crap!

To do this isn't easy. You may feel that you wish that it was, but if it was, search would yield meaningless results and therefore people wouldn't use search the way they do now.

Where would this leave you and me? Floating on the sea with a search plane looking for you. That is where your Web site would be anyway.

There is no magic button (as many feel meta tags are) to get you listed in search engines. It takes time, patience, and most of all knowledge of how to do it. If you want to learn SEO you need to go to High Rankings forum. You will learn a wealth of knowledge there.

WebMaster-Talk is the forum for Web Design/Development and Coding. For Specific SEO info you really need to go to High Rankings. They have great information for beginners. Must reads for anyone interested in SEO.

Learning seo isn't limited to seo specialists. Unless you have resources to spend thousands of dollars a month, a business owner that plans on utilizing a Web site as a revenue source, must learn about seo. Not to say that a small business shouldn't have an seo consultant. But, one needs to understand the process to be effective.

There are a lot of myths out there. There are also many ways to get your site banned if you don't know what you are doing. Even by trusting an seo. Never trust.. You need to understand yourself, or else, you may end up with an seo professional who isn't honest. Many, Many exist.

Don't just learn seo. Learn good seo.
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:17 PM Re: my website
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have you submit your url to google?
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:11 AM Re: my website
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I don't know where you got this information SpacemanSpiff, but it is incorrect. It is a myth that meta keyword does anything for search engine placements, especially Google.
Just checked that out Chipjohns, and it does infact help your position especially on google. It is no the only thing that it is based on but it does work. I don't know who told you that it was false but their wrong. I know for a fact several sites that used Meta tag key words to help inch their way up to the #1 spot on google search.

Where did you learn that Meta tags really didn't work? If they didn't work then what would their point be? Would they not have been deprecated when CSS started to become dominate?
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:46 AM Re: my website
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SpacemanSpiff,

Read this. Jill is one of the foremost and respected authorities on SEO.

http://www.highrankings.com/metakeyword.htm

Also here are a couple other threads about the subject. I take you to High Rankings Forum because they are an authoritative source specific to SEO

http://www.highrankings.com/forum/in...35&hl=meta+tag

http://www.highrankings.com/forum/in...52&hl=meta+tag

I do not know where you got your information, but I am so certainI woulod willingly bet my life on my position.

"Keyword meta tags do not help your ranking in a search engine..."
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:45 PM Re: my website
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Ok, I read the links you sent me, but I still want to know if its so useless as formentioned then why does it still exist? Why has it not been depricated? Your also stating that all the college professors that teach HTML and XHTML to teachers that teach said courses are wrong and are teaching an incorrect method?

Well respected doesn't always make it credible. I understand that a reasonable amount of websites do use meta keyword tags and do gain high rankings in google.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:50 PM Re: my website
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Highrankings quote: "resulted in the data that the keyword metatag is totally ignored by Google, but not by MSN or Yahoo."

Your statment that meta keyword tags are useless is partly true and false. Google ignores them but according to the Highrankings test they are not ignored by MSN or Yahoo.
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