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Old 10-27-2006, 02:38 AM Design problem.
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Hello, i'm new to this site, and am new to web design. I am getting ready to take a Dreamweaver design course at the local communtiy college, but I have a question about a site I own. I bought it off ebay about 2 years ago. and i've been looking at the html script of it and some of the images are named ebay...., i wanted to get rid of anything ebay in the sript, it's mainly in the navigation part of the site. Here is the way the site originally is http://www.painless-mortgage.com/glossary.htm , i did some tinkering around and managed to get some of the things i wanted corrected, renamed the images, used the navigation bar option in dreamweaver, and this is what i came up with after i was done http://www.painless-mortgage.com/glossary2.htm , basically i wanted to know how i can get just a small break in between each navigation bar, similar to the first link is, any tips on cleaning up what i have changed would be appreciated too. Thanks
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:56 AM Re: Design problem.
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Just had a quick look at it and in the first (original) version each of the navigation items is in a different table row with another row of height 1 in between creating the small gap of white.

Ive done a quick copy and paste job and hopefully (not tested it) thishat your after...

Replace this code from the navigation section:

HTML Code:
<td width="18%" rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><p><img src="images/02image.jpg" width="167" height="15"> 
                <a href="index.html" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02home_page.jpg" alt="" name="Home" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a><br>
                <a href="process.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_process.jpg" alt="" name="Process" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a><br>
                <a href="cal.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_calculators.jpg" alt="" name="Calculator" width="167" height="16" border="0" onload=""></a> 
                <a href="faqs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__s.jpg" alt="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg" name="FAQ" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="glossary.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02glossary_of_terms.jpg" alt="" name="Glossar" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="programs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_programs.jpg" alt="" name="Programs" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="refinance.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02refinance_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Refinance" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="purchase.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02purchase_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Purchase" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="app.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_application.jpg" alt="" name="Application" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="contact.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02contact_us.jpg" alt="" name="Contact" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <img src="images/bt.jpg" width="166" height="180"> </p>
              </td>

With this code:

HTML Code:
		<Td Width="167" Height="9">
        <Img Src="images/02image.jpg" Border="0" Name="ebay2" Alt="" width="167" height="9"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
        		<a href="index.html" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02home_page.jpg" alt="" name="Home" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="process.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_process.jpg" alt="" name="Process" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="cal.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_calculators.jpg" alt="" name="Calculator" width="167" height="16" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="faqs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__s.jpg" alt="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg" name="FAQ" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="glossary.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02glossary_of_terms.jpg" alt="" name="Glossary" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="programs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_programs.jpg" alt="" name="Programs" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="refinance.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02refinance_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Refinance" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="purchase.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02purchase_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Purchase" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="app.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_application.jpg" alt="" name="Application" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="contact.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02contact_us.jpg" alt="" name="Contact" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
	        </tr>
            <tr>
		<Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
	        </tr>
Hope this helps in some way - i doubt its gonna be perfect cos there seems to be a couple of tables in the original that youve taken out...

Good luck!
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:13 AM Re: Design problem.
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If you'd like to change things up, you can go to http://www.oswd.org and get new CSS templates to use. They're free to download and use at your discretion. There are some really kick-A$$ templates to use. You might want to consider that if you want to make this site completely your own.

Granted, you'll be using someone else's template, but you can change that how you see fit, to more make it your own.

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Old 10-27-2006, 02:23 PM Re: Design problem.
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Just had a quick look at it and in the first (original) version each of the navigation items is in a different table row with another row of height 1 in between creating the small gap of white.

Ive done a quick copy and paste job and hopefully (not tested it) thishat your after...

Replace this code from the navigation section:

HTML Code:
<td width="18%" rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><p><img src="images/02image.jpg" width="167" height="15"> 
                <a href="index.html" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02home_page.jpg" alt="" name="Home" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a><br>
                <a href="process.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_process.jpg" alt="" name="Process" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a><br>
                <a href="cal.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_calculators.jpg" alt="" name="Calculator" width="167" height="16" border="0" onload=""></a> 
                <a href="faqs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__s.jpg" alt="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg" name="FAQ" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="glossary.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02glossary_of_terms.jpg" alt="" name="Glossar" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="programs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_programs.jpg" alt="" name="Programs" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="refinance.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02refinance_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Refinance" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="purchase.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02purchase_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Purchase" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="app.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_application.jpg" alt="" name="Application" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <a href="contact.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02contact_us.jpg" alt="" name="Contact" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a><br>
                <img src="images/bt.jpg" width="166" height="180"> </p>
              </td>

With this code:

HTML Code:
        <Td Width="167" Height="9">
        <Img Src="images/02image.jpg" Border="0" Name="ebay2" Alt="" width="167" height="9"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                <a href="index.html" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','images/02home_pageov.jpg','images/02home_pageov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02home_page.jpg" alt="" name="Home" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="process.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Process','images/02loan_processov.jpg','images/02loan_processov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_process.jpg" alt="" name="Process" width="167" height="15" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="cal.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Calculator','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg','images/02mortgage_calculatorsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_calculators.jpg" alt="" name="Calculator" width="167" height="16" border="0" onload=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="faqs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','FAQ','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg','images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__s.jpg" alt="images/02mortgage_f_a_q__sov.jpg" name="FAQ" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="glossary.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Glossar','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg','images/02glossary_of_termsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02glossary_of_terms.jpg" alt="" name="Glossary" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="16">
                        <a href="programs.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Programs','images/02loan_programsov.jpg','images/02loan_programsov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02loan_programs.jpg" alt="" name="Programs" width="167" height="16" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="refinance.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Refinance','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg','images/02refinance_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02refinance_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Refinance" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="purchase.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Purchase','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg','images/02purchase_checklistov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02purchase_checklist.jpg" alt="" name="Purchase" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="app.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Application','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg','images/02mortgage_applicationov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02mortgage_application.jpg" alt="" name="Application" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="15">
                        <a href="contact.htm" target="_top" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','images/02contact_usov.jpg','images/02contact_usov.jpg',1)" onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="images/02contact_us.jpg" alt="" name="Contact" width="167" height="15" border="0" onLoad=""></a></Td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
        <Td Width="167" Height="1"></Td>
            </tr>
Hope this helps in some way - i doubt its gonna be perfect cos there seems to be a couple of tables in the original that youve taken out...

Good luck!
Stoot
it fixes the navigation issue, but it trows off everything else. http://www.painless-mortgage.com/glossary2.htm here is the original http://www.painless-mortgage.com/glossary.htm, any ideas? thanks
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:46 PM Re: Design problem.
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Try adding this line ....

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          <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber4">
after this...

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     <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" width="100%" id="AutoNumber3">
        <tr>
          <td width="18%" rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top">
And these lines....

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          </table>
          </td>
after this...

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		<Td Width="167"><img border="0" src="images/bt.jpg" width="166" height="138"></Td>
	        </tr>
Not sure but think it will help...
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:34 PM Re: Design problem.
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i dont see any of that code in http://www.painless-mortgage.com/glossary2.htm, i think it's in the original one i have
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