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**Joe3000** · 03:36 PM

http://google.com

In IE its ok but in FF it produces garbled text.

This is the header:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en">

Is that wrong?

Thanks.

**ADAM Web Design** · 03-14-2007, 11:26 AM

Your doctype is fine.

In this case, I think it's in your fading effects. I've seen this once before, and if I remember correctly, it's in that meta tag for the fader that you're using. Take it out, see what happens. Then take the Javascript out temporarily, see what happens.

I'm pretty sure it's one of the two.

**wdwp** · 03-14-2007, 02:35 PM

I think the issue is with the file, probably wrong upload type to the server. Try reuploading the file.
In FF source code looks like:
ÿþ<�!�D�O�C�T�Y�P�E� �h�t�m�l� �P�U�B�L�I�C� �"�-�/�/�W�3�C�/�/�D�T�D� �X�H�T�M�L�

**Tom_M** · 03-14-2007, 02:51 PM

Is this page designed using Frontpage?

**blue-dreamer** · 03-14-2007, 03:21 PM

Run your html through a validator - http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...yardrules.com/ - there are a lot of 'hidden' characters which may have been added when you saved the file. Might be worth running something like HTMLTidy over your html to clean it up.

**travelagent** · 03-14-2007, 04:11 PM

You've tried doing a website using plain text, and that dog simply won't hunt -- you need to use an HTML Editor; learn HTML and all of the associated syntax.

**Joe3000** · 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelagent

You've tried doing a website using plain text

Like Notepad?

edit:

I removed this:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en">

and it loaded fine in FF - the transitions didnt work though but the page dispalyed.

Thanks.

**travelagent** · 03-15-2007, 11:57 AM

Don't use Notepad unless you're hand-coding; you still need to learn HTML and use an HTML Editor -- just the first line in your code shown here, will not produce a website:

ÿþ<�!�D�O�C�T�Y�P�E� �h�t�m�l� �P�U�B�L�I�C� �"�-�/�/�W�3�C�/�/�D�T�D� �X�H�T�M�L� �1�.�0� �T�r�a�n�s�i�t�i�o�n�a�l�/�/�E�N�"�

**SiSHCO** · 03-15-2007, 12:18 PM

Try to use dreamweaver.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/

**Joe3000** · 03-15-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelagent

Don't use Notepad unless you're hand-coding; you still need to learn HTML and use an HTML Editor -- just the first line in your code shown here, will not produce a website:

ÿþ<�!�D�O�C�T�Y�P�E� �h�t�m�l� �P�U�B�L�I�C� �"�-�/�/�W�3�C�/�/�D�T�D� �X�H�T�M�L� �1�.�0� �T�r�a�n�s�i�t�i�o�n�a�l�/�/�E�N�"�

Sorry I don't understand.

That code is only displayed when viewing the page in Firefox.
Not IE or notepad.

Do you know why its appearing?

**travelagent** · 03-15-2007, 02:35 PM

Okay; as of this morning, that was the code displayed -- the site loads now, but when you hit "Enter", you have the same code that I show above.

However; you really should fix the following code warnings on your main page:

Code:

line 1 column 1 - Warning: missing <!DOCTYPE> declaration
line 48 column 1 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 47 column 1 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 46 column 1 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 51 column 1 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 52 column 1 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 51 column 1 - Warning: plain text isn't allowed in <tr> elements
line 43 column 1 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 46 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "616161" and has been replaced
line 47 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "616161" and has been replaced
line 48 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "616161" and has been replaced
line 51 column 20 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 52 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "616161" and has been replaced

**wdwp** · 03-15-2007, 02:55 PM

Did you cut and paste
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en">

That line doesn't seem to be in plain text. Try adding it again to the front page, but copy it from a different source (and use a different text editor).

Are you editing this on Windows/Mac/Linux?

**yellow1912** · 03-15-2007, 03:05 PM

BTW, you know that FF has a plugin called WebDeveloper rite? It's very powerful. You can display table, form structure, class, id... everything. You can edit css, html,.... on the fly and see the effect. You can also valid your jscript, css, html,... Tons of useful stuff which saves you lots of time.

**LadynRed** · 03-15-2007, 03:44 PM

It has to be coming from his server. I copied the code out of IE and dropped it into a new page on my machine, with a valid DTD, and those garbage characters don't come up. Even w/o a DTD they didn't come up, and FF displays it just fine and dandy

**Joe3000** · 03:37 PM

I have taken out the doctype so the page starts with <HTML>

It works fine locally but when I upload it some pages still have the garbled text.

Help!

Its putting spaces in between each character in the HTML.

Why?

**travelagent** · 03-18-2007, 12:43 PM

IMO, you have some serious issues understanding HTML syntax structure -- I suggest you start all over and actually learn HTML ... no matter how you think; slice and dice it, or cut it up -- a DOCTYPE Declaration is mandatory, as we've all tried to explain to you.

**Sydpix** · 01:04 PM

I had this weird issue with dreamweaver once. I would make changes to a document; then right as I uploaded it to my site, It would invert all my my changes.

And another time there had actually been scripts that failed to work because of the way dreamweaver reads and translates code. I had to re-download the script; make the changes in notepad (which I'm getting closer and closer to doing ALL the time), then upload it without opening any thing, (or dreamweaver would somehow change the code)

I'm not sure If you are using DW or -- any -- editor.

Try editing the file in notepad and use a different program to ftp the page.

One thing I noticed right of the bat was the weird spacing in your source code?

Code:

 < h t m l > 
< h e a d > 
< t i t l e > m e n u p a g e < / t i t l e > 
< m e t a h t t p - e q u i v = " P a g e - E n t e r " c o n t e n t = " b l e n d t

A resonable deduction:

Fire Fox is reading between the spaces expecting code and because of the space it's adding the question mark symbol between almost every letter.

Take a close look at the page.

Lose the letter spacing in your code.

**Joe3000** · 03-18-2007, 12:55 PM

I didnt actually make these pages but am trying to fix them.

I can't be re-doing them.

What would cause the code to change to this:

< h t m l >

< h e a d >

< t i t l e >

s y n o p s i s

< / t i t l e >

for the whole document once its been uploaded?

**WebSavvy** · 03-18-2007, 01:00 PM

When you're uploading the files to your server are you uploading them via FTP or via the upload form in CPanel?

If you're uploading via the form in CPanel, understand that files will be uploaded in BINARY format by default.

Text (HTML/PHP/SHTML) should be uploaded in ASCII format and not BINARY.
Upload your files again but do this via FTP in ASCII format.

If this is what you have already done, then perhaps the issue is connected to the charset you're using (or lack of one).

If you do not have a charset tag in your document header, try adding one and see if this solves the problem for you.

If not, sorry ... I'm all out of suggestions other than perhaps contact your webhost support team and see if there's some issue related to the server?

**Joe3000** · 03-18-2007, 01:04 PM

I have been uploading them via FTP and through Internet Explorer (just to try something different).

As FTP I set it to ASCII but it was on binary.
Still aint working.