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Old 12-20-2006, 08:42 PM looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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http://www.augiescoffee.com is a site i'm doing about an all organic free trade etc. coffee house.

i'm looking for suggestions or comments about the general layout--this is going to be an improve-as-you-go site, so i'm looking for things that make it look unprofessional.

i'm aware of
1. the lame-ness of "under construction" notifications. they'll be gone in a week.
2. the huge size of the page. suggestions for reducing the size are welcome.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:41 AM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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and by the way, candid/harsh feedback is fine.

I'm looking for advice/comments about the layout and design. You can read the text if you want, and it would be helpful especially for the most commonly read text, but my main motivation now is layout and other design details. Thanks!
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:00 PM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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Looks like a first generation website.
Try to improve design, if you want to generate enquiries
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:01 PM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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Looks like a first generation website.
Try to improve design, if you want to generate enquiries
sorry, your reply has me completely baffled. what do you mean by 'first generation'. and what do you mean by 'generate enquiries'?
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:56 AM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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Try using a more interesting font, i think that would make a huge difference.
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:00 AM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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The design is fine, don't listen to that. Too many people think that you have to go with whatever the current trend is. And trust me, it doesn't look like a first generation site. Early, yes. But not 1st generation.

When you reference another page on your site, like you do in the first paragraph of the last section, link to it. It makes things easier for the visitor, who now wouldn't have to go hunt for the link.

I went to your intro page, and there's no way to get off of it besides the Back function in the browser. You might want to change that, even if it's just making the image a link to the home page. That's what I expected it to be.

Site's are never finished, so forget about that part. I'd change it to say something like 'Look for more to come.' Just something about how more things will be added. Once you have the site to a functioning level, it's finished. After that it's improved.

Get a little bit more space between your footer and the end of the text. And probably some space undr the footer too. It just looks better that way.

Put more pictures in there like you have on the 'Location' page. All that text just doesn't look as good, and for some reason people will read the same amount of text if it has images and not complain about it.

While we're talking about the location page, just display the whole map at once. There's no reason to put it in a frame. Especially since it doesn't need much more space anyway. It's fine if you have that paragraph further down, because people going to that page will be most interested in where to get coffee.

Make the hours box stand out more. And don't say that it's never open on Sunday, that's just weird. Instead, use 'closed' or something similar. In the future, the place might be open on Sunday. You never know.

I really like it though.
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Old 12-25-2006, 08:37 AM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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Your site is missing a DOCTYPE Declaration which is mandatory for most current markup languages, and without one, it's impossible to reliably validate a document. The DOCTYPE defines the version of the document like -- HTML 4.0.1, XHTML 1.0, 1.1, ...etc.

You have 81 code warnings you may wish to fix, so that your site validates for accessibility in all browsers, as shown here ...

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Old 12-27-2006, 03:49 AM Re: looking for suggestions on a coffee website
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I'm not fussed on the font. And I think you should make the 'fine coffee and tea' heading stand out more since that is what you are selling.
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